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41 Comments on Why I Am Still An AE Guy and Why The Square Map Is Ridiculous

  1. Some quick calculations can prove the AE map does not , and can not represent our earth as we know it. Using lines of latitude and longitude, we can show the AE map is not a true representation and that the sphere must be correct.

    • exactly what you’re asking for, if you can ignore the offensive remarks /watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw&t=2m21s

    • Diogenes Tychopoulos // 16th July 2017 at 2:25 pm // Reply

      R.w.h. oh right, you did present many proofs of a sphere. Almost as many flat earth proofs as I am revealing in this comment. Finally, a troll who can provide evidence. Thank you kindly

    • Funny that you guys are saying what you are saying when the proof is so obvious and if not, it is easily verified.

      Since you guys like to talk your talk, you should be able to back it up.

      Debunk this:

      Lines of Longitude and Latitude prove a sphere.
      Imagine an old style basketball, with the seams running from the top to the bottom, they start at the same place, on top, and are furthest apart at the middle and get closer together as they converge at the bottom. Our lines of Longitude do the same thing. They start at the North pole and are furthest apart at the equator, then converge together at the South Pole. Longitude is furthest apart at the equator, which is a separation of 60 NM, or about 69 miles. From the equator, the lines of Longitude converge at a constant, using spherical trigonometry and the spherical law of cosines, the constant is the cosine of the Latitude. For example, how far apart are the lines of Longitude at 45 degrees latitude. (cosine 45 (.707) X 69) Simple, right, because we know it is furthest around the earth at the equator, and any East / West circle around the earth above or below the equator has to be less. So we can go to the Northern Hemisphere and do an experiment with any two points and do the math and see it works. Let’s use Dallas and Charleston SC. The coordinates for Dallas are 32.7767° N, 96.7970° W The coordinates for Charleston are 32.7765° N, 79.9311° W. (It helps if you pick two points that are close to the same latitude, as the cosines are the same, if not, there is a lot more math involved. (see the Haversine formula)) The difference in Longitude between Dallas and Charleston is 16.86. At the equator, 16.86 change of longitude would be (16.86. )*( 69 miles) = 1163 miles. You can test this on a flat earth map. On your flat earth map, draw a line from the North Pole to Dallas. Now draw a line from the North Pole to Charleston. Draw a line from Dallas to Charleston and you made a triangle. The difference in Longitude is 16.86, and the sides are 4000 miles, which gives a base of 1182 miles. On the flat earth map, that should be the distance between Dallas and Charleston. It is not. Since we know the Latitude is 32, the cosine 0.83867. Therefore, the distance between Dallas and Charleston is 16.86*69*0.83867 = 975.3 miles. I just looked it up on an online distance calculator and got 980 miles. Pretty close. Now, we can also do this in the Southern Hemisphere. If the earth was flat, the entire Latitude Longitude reference system would fall apart as you got further from the North Pole. Exponentially it would be completely unusable below the equator. On the round earth, below the Equator, the lines of Longitude converge toward each other, meaning that they meet at a central point, the South Pole. There is no other explanation and the overlay of the Lat / Long system proves a spherical earth. There is no way to overlay converging lines of Longitude on a flat earth map. Airplanes would not be able to find destinations, and GPS’s in cars would be completely unreliable. This does not happen. Let’s put it to the test. It helps if you pick two points that are close to the same latitude, as the cosines are the same, if not, there is a lot more math involved. (see again the Haversine formula) I picked two cities in the Southern Hemisphere that are on the same Latitude, and connected by a highway. Sydney and Adelaide Australia. They lie on about 34 South Latitude, cosine of 34 is .82. Sydney has a longitude of 151, Adelaide has a Longitude of 138, for a difference of 13. At the equator, that would be a distance of 897 miles, or 1443 Kilometers. Since we know the lines of Longitude are closer together at Latitude 34, the mathematical distance between the two cities is (897 X cosine 34= 735) or 1182 kilometers. The lines of Longitude have gotten 261 kilometers closer, i.e. converged from the equator. I looked up on a few sites the distance between the two cities, and I got 1162 kilometers. Ok, my math is off by 10 kilometers, I rounded all numbers. Also, the reason I picked two cites that are connected by a East / West highway is to look at the driving distance, which is 1376, due to the fact the highway is not straight. On a flat earth map, the expanding distances in the Southern hemisphere would mean the straight line distance between the two cities would be 1590 kilometers. We know this is not accurate because of driving distances and times. (also flight times) Since this is a well used highway, I think drivers, and especially truckers would spot the discrepancy in driving distance. It can’ be faked.
      Let’s try this on the two other cities South of the Equator. Sydney and Perth. Sydney is at 33.8688° S, 151.2093° E and Perth is at 31.9505° S, 115.8605° E. Since the Latitudes are not the same, we will take an average, which will give us a close number, but not 100% accurate. Close enough to prove this point though. The difference of Longitude of Sydney and Perth is 35.34. At the equator the difference would be 2438 or on the flat earth map, the difference would be 5264 miles.. Let’s use the average Latitude of 32, which gives a cosine of .848. Calculated distance between Perth and Sydney is Change of Longitude 35.34* 69* cosine Latitude (.848)= 2068 miles. Online calculator says 2047 miles. Fairly close. Qantas flight 580 makes a daily flight between Sydney and Perth, and uses a 737-800 which has a cruise speed of about 510. The flight takes about 3:45 – 4:00 hours, depending on which direction and speed. A cruise speed of 510 for that flight time gives a distance of about 2000 miles, almost exactly what we calculated using the Difference in Longitude and spherical law of cosines.

    • A while back, a flat earther told me to do research, so I did. I can go all day with proofs the earth is not flat, but the subject here is lines of latitude and Longitude, and the AE map.

      If you want real proof the earth is not flat, just ask. I will be happy to provide it. It’s fun watching flat earthers back pedal and admit they can’t do math.

  2. shelly welden // 16th July 2017 at 7:05 am // Reply

    thanks for being one of the great flat Earthers who is well spoken and helped me see the truth! I for one, am truly grateful to actually know the truth of flat earth!

  3. Christopher Manno // 16th July 2017 at 7:56 am // Reply

    Jeranism, Could you do a video where you take all the so-called current proofs and evidences of a globe earth and debunk them one by one and present it to some kind of news paper, magazine perhaps in text form??We could possible raise the money to place an article in some mainstream publication on the topic of looking at the accepted proofs and evidences for the globe earth and going through them and debunking them one by one with undeniable observable scientific proofs that can be observed and tested.

    • Keith Mayes // 16th July 2017 at 7:47 pm // Reply

      Robert Saltzman You are very confused, the astrolabe was designed to work on a globe, it gave information similar to that of a modern day sextant, Latitude, sunrise, star positions and the like. It wouldn’t be of much use on a flat earth, you couldn’t find your latitude using it for example, which was the main reason sailors used them and later sextants. They would be useless for that on a flat earth because no matter where you are on a flat earth the angle of the star above the horizon is virtually exactly the same. A star that was overhead on the “edge”, as close to Antarctica as the secret military forces allow, will still be overhead at the North Pole. You will immediately assume that this is wrong, but in truth the stars are so far away that the small shift of a couple of thousand miles, I don’t know what size you claim the earth to be, will have negligible difference on stars many trillions of miles away. A diagram of this triangle, the position near the edge, the position at the pole, and the lines extending out to a star, would if drawn to scale, which is virtually impossible btw, show the two lines so close together as to appear as a single line. Hope that visualisation helps. The reason we do see a difference, and the reason why the astrolabe and sextants work, is because we live on a globe, so a small difference moved in latitude makes a big difference in the height of a star above the horizon.
      If you still think an astrolabe cannot work on a globe I would like to hear your reasons why. Assuming if course you do actually have a reason and are not just making an unfounded comment?

    • Michael Taylors // 16th July 2017 at 8:28 pm // Reply

      Keith Mayes . No matter where you are on Earth, the angle is the same ? Isn’t precisely because of this angle change that celestial navigation is possible ?

    • Keith Mayes // 16th July 2017 at 8:37 pm // Reply

      Michael Taylors Yes, well done on picking up on that, it is precisely the measurable change in altitude of the stars that makes it possible to calculate the latitude of the observer. That was my point. If you carry on reading what I said you will discover that if the earth were flat there would be no measurable change in altitude of the stars, for the reasons given. The fact that the astrolabe works is undeniable proof we live on a globe. So easy isn’t it!
      It seems to me from your comment that you misread what I said. I said that there would be no change if the earth were flat, not that there IS no change. Hell of a difference.

  4. Used to love this channel but it’s turned into a cash cow and the graphics all over the screen ruined it. It’s like watching twitch….

    • Normunds Gasparovičs // 16th July 2017 at 2:51 pm // Reply

      Markie H lets look at your channel. Oh wait you dont have one. It is just normal to ask for reward.

    • brooksdeb1970 // 16th July 2017 at 8:28 pm // Reply

      @Markie H He still needs to make a living. It’s not like NSF is giving him a grant to go looking for the truth. Yes, it is harder to see the videos and visuals he uses to demonstrate, but it’s not that bad. I won’t stop watching because of it. If he is working on this full time and delivering what he finds to us for free, then why should we care if he has the equivalent of ads on his site? He can’t be expected to make money out of thin air. If you consider what actors or athletes (or even a newscaster) make to entertain us with relatively little value, then why would you begrudge him a decent living? He is putting a lot of effort into finding the facts. The more donations that he receives, the more equipment and experiments he can do to deliver the facts to the rest of us. I get to see the actual evidence without getting up off the couch if I so desire. Sounds like a bargain to me.

  5. Christopher Manno // 16th July 2017 at 10:07 am // Reply

    Isaac Newton’s theory of gravity was conjured up out of necessity. A theory was needed to explain how things could stick to a spinning, spherical earth and not fly off due the centrifugal force from the spinning globe. Aren’t you the least bit curious why the supposed force of gravity has never been measured or replicated in any way in any experiment? The gravitational theory requires that gravitational attraction to the earth by all persons and objects remains the same at all places on the earth. That means that the gravitational force at the North Pole is the same as the gravitational force at the equator. That poses a very real problem if the earth is spinning as alleged. That is because the centrifugal force decreases every mile toward the north pole, where the centrifugal force is ultimately reduced to zero, because the North Pole is the axis of the supposedly spinning earth.
    On a globe, as you travel north or south of the equator the circumference parallel to the equator becomes less. Consequently, the speed of the earth’s spin at those more northern and southern latitudes from the equator would be slower than its speed of spin at the equator. For example, at the 45 degree north latitude, the earth’s spin should be approximately 700 miles per hour. One hundred feet from the North Pole, the earth’s spin should be reduced to one quarter mile per hour (1,308 feet per hour). As the speed of the spin is reduced, so also is the correlative centrifugal force. What is the amount of decrease of the centrifugal force between the equator to one hundred feet of the North Pole? There would be a 4,000 fold reduction (1,000 MPH vs. ¼ MPH) in centrifugal force from the equator to a point one hundred feet of the North Pole. That means, assuming (as is required by the theory of gravity) that the force of gravity remains constant over the entire surface of the earth, a 175 pound man at the equator would weigh 700,000 pounds if he traveled to within 100 feet of the North Pole. Assuming the earth is spinning, the decrease in the centrifugal force as one approaches the North Pole, means that a person would be crushed by the force of gravity, before he ever reached the North Pole. The spinning earth and the mystical force of gravity are thus proven to be preposterous fictions.

  6. brooksdeb1970 // 16th July 2017 at 10:25 am // Reply

    If three balloons were sent up simultaneously from different locations. could the sun’s location be triangulated?

    • ha… good call 😉

    • brooksdeb1970 No out view of the Sun is subjective and personal the same way at a certain time of day, at a certain angle you will personally see a shine on a car which no one else in another position will see..

    • brooksdeb1970 // 16th July 2017 at 7:34 pm // Reply

      If there are 3 simultaneous balloons, above the atmosphere, which is what Jeran suggests is causing the lensing (and I agree that it is plausible) then the view of the sun is not being skewed by the atmosphere. I understand what you are saying about the reflection, but balloon footage suggests that we would be looking at a more accurate position of the object, above the lensing effect, and not a reflection of that object. i am aware of the “projection” appearance of the sun from Dwayne Kellam’s video. I just think that it would give more information to the investigation.

  7. ‘weigh all the evidence.’

    the speed of the sun and moon need to change by 70% over the month/ year for your radial circle model to be true, being as the tropic of capricorn is 1.7 x bigger than the tropic of cancer.

    simple question, do they do that jeran? anything like it?

  8. Luzid Legrand // 16th July 2017 at 11:21 am // Reply

    if we see the sky curved then meteors are not flying down just across.hmmmm

  9. Chris Estes // 16th July 2017 at 1:01 pm // Reply

    try like $30 dollars for entry, popcorn and drink

  10. Linda Curtis // 16th July 2017 at 1:13 pm // Reply

    If Antarctica is the outer circle, wouldn’t it be possible for them to say it has a 24 hour sun? One spot would not see it but the circle of Antarctica would if fact have a 24 hour sun. Every hour of the suns movement would be in a different spot?

    • yO5h 5trOy // 16th July 2017 at 2:37 pm // Reply

      Linda Curtis no u wouldn’t see the sun from any point of outer circle if it was on the opposite side of that circle due to its height, that’s how day and night works .

    • yO5h 5trOy // 16th July 2017 at 2:38 pm // Reply

      There is more light being spread around the edge due to lower ceiling height and so they get longer daylight but not visible sun

    • Linda Curtis // 16th July 2017 at 9:39 pm // Reply

      +yO5h 5trOy that is what I was saying. If Antarctica is a circle NASA is telling truth about 24 sun. The ice circle will get 24 hour sun just not in all spots at once. The sun would be traveling around the circle.

    • yO5h 5trOy // 16th July 2017 at 9:43 pm // Reply

      Linda Curtis no u didn’t get what I meant .. anyway .. there can not be 24 our day in Antarctica

    • Linda Curtis // 16th July 2017 at 10:39 pm // Reply

      +yO5h 5trOy if Antarctica is a circle and the sun travels in a circle then the circle of I’ll get 24 hour sun. Look at a flat earth model and see how the sun travels in the Tropic of Capricorn.

  11. Lol look at all the payment options , omg jeran wtf ?? , I used to watch u because I thought u were real , but now I see ur true side , it’s all for the money . Time to unsub from this channel and go to a more informative channel . Ur stuff all sounds the same these days jeran . Good luck with the channel , I think u killed it for urself the other night with ips and morgile . People now see u and bob for who u really are .

    • Behold PaleHorse // 16th July 2017 at 6:26 pm // Reply

      Can nobody be allowed to make a living anymore? I don’t get it, he’s not forcing you to donate, you can still watch his channel, no different than TV running ads every 15 minutes to pay the bills.

  12. Daily Dump News // 16th July 2017 at 2:50 pm // Reply

    Are you still in possession of that space walk sword? Wouldn’t mind taking it off your hands.

  13. Robert Saltzman // 16th July 2017 at 3:16 pm // Reply

    I’m with the map actually going where the sun circles so AE map till we know what is past Antarctica

  14. Flat Earth Cronicles // 16th July 2017 at 3:30 pm // Reply

    thanks for keeping your video’s free, if people want to help out then why not, even jeran has to eat, great work and keep it flat. peace!

  15. Spot on mate. Absolutely spot on.

  16. bogdan kowal // 16th July 2017 at 5:06 pm // Reply

    im 62 now so not to long till lights out, been going out to sea for many years and had my doubts about the globe, this guy jeran hit the switch thanks alot mucker great stuff. bob skipper of, least said.. never seen a curve, nor has my 24 mile radar.

  17. drunkonacid // 16th July 2017 at 5:27 pm // Reply

    jeran, you are my favourite idiot. Love your videos mate. peace bro.

  18. WiriamuFirippu // 16th July 2017 at 7:01 pm // Reply

    Anyone who thinks that the sun can be “in” the clouds needs to do more studying.

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